Please let me start out by saying that I am sure that I don't hold the absolute truth on any of this - the Lord will no doubt correct us on everything when we get to Heaven, but grace and divorce both have to be at the top of His list of human errors. We try to make little rules and tiny boxes for things that span the heavens!
"By grace are ye saved... not of works", "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved". I truly believe that *salvation* is a matter of belief and of faith. Having given one's heart to God, it's given. I rest my hope of Heaven on the blood that was spilt for me. I don't rest it on anything I've ever done - eesh, I'd never sleep at night if I thought that salvation had anything to do with ME. My works, the works that I see in other Christians, they are *signs* of conversion... but only God knows the heart of man.
I am sure that there will be folks that I think hopeless sinners in Heaven, and other folks that I thought were God-fearing who end up in Hell. It's all about that moment when you put your hope of heaven in Christ - your faith in Him. The more you contemplate His sacrifice, the more you fall in love with Him, the more you earnestly desire to obey His commandments.
But obedience to His commandments is not, and is not meant to be, something that humans can do outside the power of the Holy Spirit. I know that every day I fail at "be not anxious for tomorrow..." does that lose me my salvation? Again with the eeesh... I should hope not! (And talk about a mindset that would make me permanently concerned with tomorrow - thinking that I had to follow a zillion rules on my own strength would do that for certain!)
I love my Lord, and I know it displeases Him when I fail... and so each day I give over more of myself to Him. It's not like I don't fail at it - giving over self, surrendering to Him, letting the Spirit work through me... those are not things that come quickly to anyone. I strive, for He has told me to strive, but my strength is not where I put my faith. In fact, the moments when I have knelt, broken, at my Lord's feet in prayer are the moments when I feel that my faith was the truest. The moments when I *knew* that I was only saved by His grace, that I was utterly unworthy to whisper His holy Name.
So. That brings us to marriage, and in it I see grace as well.
First let's look at the purposes of marriage. Procreation, social support, intimacy, friendship, stability, and a vision of the relation of Christ and the church (among others). Ideally, a man and woman marry and support one another through life - the family was the original social support system. You *need* someone to be with you when you're sick, when you're grieving, who knows your weaknesses and still loves you, is still committed to you. Even when marriage was much less about love and much more about the business end - your spouse was the one who was *expected* to have your back, no matter what.
God doesn't want us to throw all of that down the drain for just anything - and as we can see from today's world, people will cheerfully do just that given the opportunity to do so. More in former times, but still today - women get the short end of the stick financially after a divorce. Divorce is *fundamentally* unfair. You are breaching a life-long contract that is meant to be the center of your mundane existence, the thing you take for granted, the thing you depend upon. People who *expect* to be married til death can behave differently than those who expect to be discarded if things "don't work out".
None of that, of course, speaks to the abusive or ugly marriage... and I don't know what to say on that except that for His own reasons, God didn't give an out for that in His Word. Perhaps it's part of how you deal with an abusive master if you're a servant? To serve as you would serve God, and give your service to God in serving the one who hurts you?
For the folks that have been victims of adultery - they are given an out because in the act of adultery you form another primary bond, and you break the first one. "...members of an harlot" says Paul in relation to fornication - so one can assume that it *is* the act of intercourse that makes that bond. When you take an adulterer back, you forgive the sin and then you re-form the intimate bond between you. But you are free not to do so...
Remarriage? Since I think it's the act of intimacy that forms the metaphysical side of the marriage, how could I think that any marriages were "adulterous" or not?? I don't think that's part of grace *at all*. I mean... it's over, you know? If the other person is already remarried or won't take you back when you repent of the divorce - it's over. Ideally, again, you're neither one remarried and can marry each other again, but how often does that happen? Further, saying that the second marriage is adulterous, should be repented of and essentially dissolved is missing the point of marriage in the first place. Once you are *married*... you're married. You should just stay where you are. The one person a OT divorcee was forbidden to marry was her first husband...
I guess the metaphor is that if I throw a baseball and break a lamp, I should first try to fix it, and if it's not fixable, then I should get a new one. The theory that you cited seems to say that if you break the lamp and can't fix it, you should live in the dark.
Some may, indeed, be so called... but it's a hard walk, and such things scare many a convert away. I would take such a sensitive issue on my knees to the Lord in prayer, not for one day but for many, and with fasting as well. After all, that's Who our primary *eternal* relationship is with... God. Should we not consult Him in all things?
One final thought... in Heaven we aren't married, nor will we be given in marriage. Sentimentalist that I am, I pondered, and came up with this: God wants that primary relationship to be with HIM, to free us finally of everything so that we can be individuals, chained not by infirmity of body nor circumstance, free to worship Him for all eternity and rejoice in His love.
I wandered, hope this made my end a bit clearer. :)
- Hearth
Monday, June 30, 2008
Saturday, June 28, 2008
Mennonites and Divorce
Who knew? Someone actually put out an official statement on it. I started to think that maybe I had misinterpreted the Mennonite position on divorce but apparently not. Here's the link: http://www.anabaptists.org/tracts/divorce2.html
Turns out that I am in an "adulteress marriage" since my husband was married before. Turns out that he can divorce me, return to his first wife, and all is okay. I am stuck, according to this statement, in spite of this being my first marriage to live a life of celibacy, with no remarriage possible.
I do not believe for one instance that this is God's plan or way of thinking about people in bad marriages. The above linked statement is legalism at it's worst, straining at gnats and swallowing camels, making clean the outside of the cup while the inside is dirty and the church putting burdens on people that they themselves could not bear. I might not be sure what the Bible says exactly about divorce but this pitiless position is not it.
Layla
Turns out that I am in an "adulteress marriage" since my husband was married before. Turns out that he can divorce me, return to his first wife, and all is okay. I am stuck, according to this statement, in spite of this being my first marriage to live a life of celibacy, with no remarriage possible.
I do not believe for one instance that this is God's plan or way of thinking about people in bad marriages. The above linked statement is legalism at it's worst, straining at gnats and swallowing camels, making clean the outside of the cup while the inside is dirty and the church putting burdens on people that they themselves could not bear. I might not be sure what the Bible says exactly about divorce but this pitiless position is not it.
Layla
Friday, June 27, 2008
Divorce and Grace
No, Mennonites do not believe in salvation through grace in the way that you believe in salvation through grace. Mennonites are not actually Protestants: they fall into a no-man's-land between Catholicism and Protestantism.
Mennonites believe that we are all sinners and "come short of the glory of God" and that no matter how hard we try to be good, we could never be good enough for Heaven without the sacrifice that Jesus made, and the grace that allows us to be saved. Nonetheless, they also believe that "out of the heart, the mouth speaks" and that your actions follow your heart. Therefore your faith should be evident in works, otherwise something is clearly not right there. Salvation is a gift but not a gift to be taken for granted or abused. It is also a gift that can be lost. I also don't believe when you're in, you're in.
Salvation can be lost. I don't believe that a divorce necessarily makes it so but I do believe that there are people who turn their backs utterly on God and "deliberately" lose their salvation.
But more generally, Mennonites believe that to sin knowingly, is not covered under that grace. Sinning through ignorance would be covered. You would have to sincerely repent in order for that grace to cover you. Paul addresses this actually. Somewhere he says that there is no "covering" for knowingly sinning, as that means that Christ would be twice crucified.
Since divorce is a sin and remarriage is a sin, and it may be a sin that a person doesn't truly repent in his or her heart, Communion is denied, just as it would be for instance, in the Catholic church which takes a similar view of divorce and remarriage. Although they do provide a way out, as in if only one party was Catholic then the other party isn't, Catholics conveniently "don't count" that marriage as valid in the eyes of God, even if the other party is a Christian only not a Catholic Christian.
Mennonites don't count anyone out. So you're pretty well stuck. The idea that a marriage cannot be dissolved at all and a divorced person can't remarry without sinning is from Jesus' words in Mark: Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery.
And in Romans, Paul says: ...by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law of marriage. So then, if she marries another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress, even though she marries another man.
Both Jesus and Paul seem to be saying that to remarry while your spouse is alive is adultery, regardless of the circumstances of the separation.
Layla
Mennonites believe that we are all sinners and "come short of the glory of God" and that no matter how hard we try to be good, we could never be good enough for Heaven without the sacrifice that Jesus made, and the grace that allows us to be saved. Nonetheless, they also believe that "out of the heart, the mouth speaks" and that your actions follow your heart. Therefore your faith should be evident in works, otherwise something is clearly not right there. Salvation is a gift but not a gift to be taken for granted or abused. It is also a gift that can be lost. I also don't believe when you're in, you're in.
Salvation can be lost. I don't believe that a divorce necessarily makes it so but I do believe that there are people who turn their backs utterly on God and "deliberately" lose their salvation.
But more generally, Mennonites believe that to sin knowingly, is not covered under that grace. Sinning through ignorance would be covered. You would have to sincerely repent in order for that grace to cover you. Paul addresses this actually. Somewhere he says that there is no "covering" for knowingly sinning, as that means that Christ would be twice crucified.
Since divorce is a sin and remarriage is a sin, and it may be a sin that a person doesn't truly repent in his or her heart, Communion is denied, just as it would be for instance, in the Catholic church which takes a similar view of divorce and remarriage. Although they do provide a way out, as in if only one party was Catholic then the other party isn't, Catholics conveniently "don't count" that marriage as valid in the eyes of God, even if the other party is a Christian only not a Catholic Christian.
Mennonites don't count anyone out. So you're pretty well stuck. The idea that a marriage cannot be dissolved at all and a divorced person can't remarry without sinning is from Jesus' words in Mark: Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery.
And in Romans, Paul says: ...by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law of marriage. So then, if she marries another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress, even though she marries another man.
Both Jesus and Paul seem to be saying that to remarry while your spouse is alive is adultery, regardless of the circumstances of the separation.
Layla
Something you'd mentioned
Something you mentioned in the blog before last struck me, "divorced people are still not allowed to participate in Communion, and given the fact that in the eyes of many, unless you actually repent a divorce, you are going to go to Hell", don't Mennonites believe in salvation by grace?
Getting a divorce against God's will is bad, but so is doing anything against His will. You walk away, you reap the consequences of not having as good a relationship with the Lord. Those can be temporal, like the punishments He uses to get you back in line, or they can be eternal, losing rewards in Heaven. But once you're saved... you're saved. A divorce doesn't "un-save" you. Once you're written in the Lamb's book of life, you're in.
So that's just weird to me.
You do want to repent sin, of course... but... hmmm.
Can you expand?
Getting a divorce against God's will is bad, but so is doing anything against His will. You walk away, you reap the consequences of not having as good a relationship with the Lord. Those can be temporal, like the punishments He uses to get you back in line, or they can be eternal, losing rewards in Heaven. But once you're saved... you're saved. A divorce doesn't "un-save" you. Once you're written in the Lamb's book of life, you're in.
So that's just weird to me.
You do want to repent sin, of course... but... hmmm.
Can you expand?
Thursday, June 26, 2008
God and Row Boats
Well, I have no specific intentions of separation or divorce at this point. I just have never been able to figure out where my marriage fits in. There's an old saying about where one rat is seen, there are actually twelve. So it is with anything I might say about my marriage: for everything I say, there are twelve unsaid things.
What I do know, and which my mother has also said, is that like the evil spirit seemed to "depart" from Saul when David played the flute, however irrational my husband may be, my presence also does that to a certain extent. It is simply very, very hard to get nothing back. He is not my rock, nor my "soft place to fall."
As to what God's plans are for me, beyond doing unto others as I would have them do unto me and forgiving until it hurts, I do not know. I believe that is God's plan for every Christian, and for my every interaction with human beings, so there's no reason to believe that my husband is somehow excluded from that.
I tell myself that the God who was able to release the Israelites from Pharaoh, is able to release me from my marriage. At his time, not mine. Then at other times I think I am bullshitting myself because I am too much of a coward and am using God to avoid making a decision.
The pacifism I believe in, is a pacifism that reflects in every aspect of life, from the personal to the international. And the sorts of violence I am against, is every sort of violence - not just physical but the emotional harm people can and do do to each other. It's not the Mennonite church per se, that upsets me in terms of how it sees divorce or marriage. I went against, in a way, my own beliefs when I left, which is that God sees and knows everything today as he did yesterday and was in fact able to deliver me, but chose not to. But after years of my head feeling like it has been batted around like a mouse by a cat, I can't be sure that makes any sense to anyone.
I don't want to be like the guy who is caught on a rooftop in a flood and prays to God for someone to help him and a rowboat comes along. The guy sends the rowboat away and prays some more for God to deliver him. Three times he prays and three times a rowboat comes along and the guy sends it away. Then the fourth time he prays, a voice from Heaven says, "I sent you a rowboat three times to save you and each time you sent it away."
I don't know if I've been sending rowboats away. I also had a lot of Mennonites who are seriously religously against divorce, tell me to leave as fast as my feet could carry me. They were more than those who thought I should stay.
If God wants me to leave, He'll have to be real clear about it. Writing on the wall would do it or a sheepskin filled with dew and a dry ground and a dry sheepskin with a dew-wet ground. A light on the road to Damascus. All of the above.
Layla
What I do know, and which my mother has also said, is that like the evil spirit seemed to "depart" from Saul when David played the flute, however irrational my husband may be, my presence also does that to a certain extent. It is simply very, very hard to get nothing back. He is not my rock, nor my "soft place to fall."
As to what God's plans are for me, beyond doing unto others as I would have them do unto me and forgiving until it hurts, I do not know. I believe that is God's plan for every Christian, and for my every interaction with human beings, so there's no reason to believe that my husband is somehow excluded from that.
I tell myself that the God who was able to release the Israelites from Pharaoh, is able to release me from my marriage. At his time, not mine. Then at other times I think I am bullshitting myself because I am too much of a coward and am using God to avoid making a decision.
The pacifism I believe in, is a pacifism that reflects in every aspect of life, from the personal to the international. And the sorts of violence I am against, is every sort of violence - not just physical but the emotional harm people can and do do to each other. It's not the Mennonite church per se, that upsets me in terms of how it sees divorce or marriage. I went against, in a way, my own beliefs when I left, which is that God sees and knows everything today as he did yesterday and was in fact able to deliver me, but chose not to. But after years of my head feeling like it has been batted around like a mouse by a cat, I can't be sure that makes any sense to anyone.
I don't want to be like the guy who is caught on a rooftop in a flood and prays to God for someone to help him and a rowboat comes along. The guy sends the rowboat away and prays some more for God to deliver him. Three times he prays and three times a rowboat comes along and the guy sends it away. Then the fourth time he prays, a voice from Heaven says, "I sent you a rowboat three times to save you and each time you sent it away."
I don't know if I've been sending rowboats away. I also had a lot of Mennonites who are seriously religously against divorce, tell me to leave as fast as my feet could carry me. They were more than those who thought I should stay.
If God wants me to leave, He'll have to be real clear about it. Writing on the wall would do it or a sheepskin filled with dew and a dry ground and a dry sheepskin with a dew-wet ground. A light on the road to Damascus. All of the above.
Layla
Each thing is different
Biblically, I think you're entitled to a separation, not a divorce, since your husband hasn't been physically unfaithful. As far as God is concerned, you *are* married until one of you goes off and "marries" someone else. From what you posted, that wouldn't take long for your husband - and I've never gotten the slightest feeling that what you want is some other person, just to be allowed to be yourself.
Practically - well, what's to stop your husband from doing what he did before, which we discussed in our private correspondence? You leave and then what? He does what he did the last time and you do what you did the last time. The purpose for you leaving is to stop the pain and humiliation... but he was easily able to continue that the first time when you left. How would this time differ?
Spiritually - what is your purpose in God's kingdom? You know that Christian women are called to witness to their non-Christian husbands. And we both know that your years of witness haven't done a bit of good, and to our mortal eyes, don't look like they ever will. But what about God's eyes? Have you asked Him? And have you asked Him about His timing? There are factors other than divorce that might free you from this time of misery.
And thank you... now I know why you're so set against the popular protestant view of being saved! MUCH has become clear.
I hope that God adds you to His list of folks to "wind up the leftovers" so that you are prepared for whatever He has next for us...
HUGS and lots of love,
Hearth
Practically - well, what's to stop your husband from doing what he did before, which we discussed in our private correspondence? You leave and then what? He does what he did the last time and you do what you did the last time. The purpose for you leaving is to stop the pain and humiliation... but he was easily able to continue that the first time when you left. How would this time differ?
Spiritually - what is your purpose in God's kingdom? You know that Christian women are called to witness to their non-Christian husbands. And we both know that your years of witness haven't done a bit of good, and to our mortal eyes, don't look like they ever will. But what about God's eyes? Have you asked Him? And have you asked Him about His timing? There are factors other than divorce that might free you from this time of misery.
And thank you... now I know why you're so set against the popular protestant view of being saved! MUCH has become clear.
I hope that God adds you to His list of folks to "wind up the leftovers" so that you are prepared for whatever He has next for us...
HUGS and lots of love,
Hearth
Wednesday, June 25, 2008
another question about divorce
This pertains to things we have shared via private email but I'll be a little more open here, for the sake of those reading the blog who may be similarly confused.
Given what you know of my marriage, could I, as a Christian, divorce and marry again from your point of view? My feelings won't be hurt no matter what you say, so don't hold back although some details, as I know you know, aren't meant to be public.
Given how I was raised, with the belief that divorce is always wrong and that there is no Christian remarriage possible, no matter what has been done to you, given the fact that to this day, in the church in which I was raised (okay so I only attended until I was 14/15, something like that), divorced people are still not allowed to participate in Communion, and given the fact that in the eyes of many, unless you actually repent a divorce, you are going to go to Hell, it was not easy for me to leave my husband.
I believe I have stated before that I don't go to church, except at Christmas and for funerals and weddings, and have never been baptised in any church and yet, still, it was so very hard to leave. And Catholics talk about "Catholic guilt." Humph. Mennonites have more than their fair share of Mennonite guilt.
I am seventy-five percent sure that my husband never cheated on me physically, although I think that it was only that the opportunity did not present itself. My husband had never been faithful to any woman and has an ex-wife and a series of ex live-in girlfriends behind him. So on the literal, biblical sense of adultery, I have no grounds for divorce.
He never hit me, so I don't have any grounds there either. The only grounds for divorce I have is the violence he did to my soul and the fact that I am an adulteress. I am sure I am not the perfect wife either. To be told what a favor it is that your husband married you right from the start though, does a number on one's head. For years I didn't think I was abused - he didn't hit me. Abuse happens to low class, trashy types. I am far too independent, have too much pride, am too smart - it couldn't happen to me, like those women who are too stupid to get out of a bad relationship. That's what I kept telling myself. So, I tried harder. I lived his life, not mine. The harder I tried, the further short I fell in his eyes. The more of his life I lived, the more he wanted. I confided in no one because it was all clearly my fault, even if I didn't understand what it was that I was doing so wrong, and I feared that if I talked about it to anyone, then they would simply corroborate what my husband was already telling me: how lucky I was to have him. And also because I am an intensely private person. I joke around sorrow. I don't spill my heart.
Submitting myself, as in being a doormat, did not work. I was a doormat. I prayed to be a better wife so that my husband would love me. I didn't pray that he would change. Every single thing that went wrong, I blamed myself for, convinced myself that it was my fault. I prayed for me.
There are some people who see love and the natural expression of it - that one wants to make the other happy - as a weakness to be exploited, not as something to be reciprocated. To do something that I knew would make my husband happy because I loved him - that, as far as he was concerned, was only his due. It never occurred to him at all that when people love each other, that love and caring goes both ways, like day follows night. This, I know now but not then, was an issue in all his previous relationships. They all ended because of his infidelity - which I don't think was physical in my case, but emotionally and mentally my husband was never faithful. If there was a way he could take my "good works" and spin them to make them look bad, he did.
So as you know, I eventually left and we have been reconciled for many years by now but nothing has changed. I do not like the way that I left - I should have left in a classier way than I did but I just flipped, like a circuit breaker that's been overloaded. From one day to the next, I could not take it any more.
While I was gone, he even became a "born-again Christian" in the presence of one my religious relatives. That made me look bad, you see (if he's a born-again Christian, by definition, I would be the polar opposite, a godless heathen) and has caused a rift in the family. This relative knows better now, but he didn't know then that he was being used as a weapon against me. The irony is that this relative, being a very old-fashioned Mennonite, never believed our marriage was valid to begin with, since my husband had a previous marriage behind him. Yet, in spite of that, he told my husband (who was delighted to share the news with me and my family) that I was going to Hell, for having left him in violation of the Christian idea of no divorce.
So I am damned if I do and damned if I don't. Those certain Mennonite who have always looked askance at my marriage to a divorced man, and considered it not to be a marriage in the eyes of God, would damn me for having left a marriage, when following their logic, it never was a marriage to begin with. Odd, isn't it?
Layla
Given what you know of my marriage, could I, as a Christian, divorce and marry again from your point of view? My feelings won't be hurt no matter what you say, so don't hold back although some details, as I know you know, aren't meant to be public.
Given how I was raised, with the belief that divorce is always wrong and that there is no Christian remarriage possible, no matter what has been done to you, given the fact that to this day, in the church in which I was raised (okay so I only attended until I was 14/15, something like that), divorced people are still not allowed to participate in Communion, and given the fact that in the eyes of many, unless you actually repent a divorce, you are going to go to Hell, it was not easy for me to leave my husband.
I believe I have stated before that I don't go to church, except at Christmas and for funerals and weddings, and have never been baptised in any church and yet, still, it was so very hard to leave. And Catholics talk about "Catholic guilt." Humph. Mennonites have more than their fair share of Mennonite guilt.
I am seventy-five percent sure that my husband never cheated on me physically, although I think that it was only that the opportunity did not present itself. My husband had never been faithful to any woman and has an ex-wife and a series of ex live-in girlfriends behind him. So on the literal, biblical sense of adultery, I have no grounds for divorce.
He never hit me, so I don't have any grounds there either. The only grounds for divorce I have is the violence he did to my soul and the fact that I am an adulteress. I am sure I am not the perfect wife either. To be told what a favor it is that your husband married you right from the start though, does a number on one's head. For years I didn't think I was abused - he didn't hit me. Abuse happens to low class, trashy types. I am far too independent, have too much pride, am too smart - it couldn't happen to me, like those women who are too stupid to get out of a bad relationship. That's what I kept telling myself. So, I tried harder. I lived his life, not mine. The harder I tried, the further short I fell in his eyes. The more of his life I lived, the more he wanted. I confided in no one because it was all clearly my fault, even if I didn't understand what it was that I was doing so wrong, and I feared that if I talked about it to anyone, then they would simply corroborate what my husband was already telling me: how lucky I was to have him. And also because I am an intensely private person. I joke around sorrow. I don't spill my heart.
Submitting myself, as in being a doormat, did not work. I was a doormat. I prayed to be a better wife so that my husband would love me. I didn't pray that he would change. Every single thing that went wrong, I blamed myself for, convinced myself that it was my fault. I prayed for me.
There are some people who see love and the natural expression of it - that one wants to make the other happy - as a weakness to be exploited, not as something to be reciprocated. To do something that I knew would make my husband happy because I loved him - that, as far as he was concerned, was only his due. It never occurred to him at all that when people love each other, that love and caring goes both ways, like day follows night. This, I know now but not then, was an issue in all his previous relationships. They all ended because of his infidelity - which I don't think was physical in my case, but emotionally and mentally my husband was never faithful. If there was a way he could take my "good works" and spin them to make them look bad, he did.
So as you know, I eventually left and we have been reconciled for many years by now but nothing has changed. I do not like the way that I left - I should have left in a classier way than I did but I just flipped, like a circuit breaker that's been overloaded. From one day to the next, I could not take it any more.
While I was gone, he even became a "born-again Christian" in the presence of one my religious relatives. That made me look bad, you see (if he's a born-again Christian, by definition, I would be the polar opposite, a godless heathen) and has caused a rift in the family. This relative knows better now, but he didn't know then that he was being used as a weapon against me. The irony is that this relative, being a very old-fashioned Mennonite, never believed our marriage was valid to begin with, since my husband had a previous marriage behind him. Yet, in spite of that, he told my husband (who was delighted to share the news with me and my family) that I was going to Hell, for having left him in violation of the Christian idea of no divorce.
So I am damned if I do and damned if I don't. Those certain Mennonite who have always looked askance at my marriage to a divorced man, and considered it not to be a marriage in the eyes of God, would damn me for having left a marriage, when following their logic, it never was a marriage to begin with. Odd, isn't it?
Layla
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